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Who's using xenoandrogens?
08-18-2011, 04:00 PM
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Who's using xenoandrogens?
I read an article about Russian pro swimmers using xenoandrogens. Is the stuff legal? Anyone knows more?
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08-18-2011, 04:04 PM
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(08-18-2011 04:00 PM)RedMuscle Wrote:  I read an article about Russian pro swimmers using xenoandrogens. Is the stuff legal? Anyone knows more?

Yeah, our swimmers reportedly used it this year in Shanghai World Championship....ha ha....but it's apparently legal. But it looks like the stuff can't be bought even on the black market...

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08-18-2011, 04:12 PM
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(08-18-2011 04:04 PM)Vitya Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:00 PM)RedMuscle Wrote:  I read an article about Russian pro swimmers using xenoandrogens. Is the stuff legal? Anyone knows more?

Yeah, our swimmers reportedly used it this year in Shanghai World Championship....ha ha....but it's apparently legal. But it looks like the stuff can't be bought even on the black market...

There are reports that xenoandrogens (modified tocopherols/tocotrienols) will be on the market in a few months. At this moment, just a few pros with the best connections are probably able to get them. The patent holder is in EU and practically all the reports of use are from Europe. Most likely not available in US at all.

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08-18-2011, 04:13 PM
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(08-18-2011 04:12 PM)DocHolliday Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:04 PM)Vitya Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:00 PM)RedMuscle Wrote:  I read an article about Russian pro swimmers using xenoandrogens. Is the stuff legal? Anyone knows more?

Yeah, our swimmers reportedly used it this year in Shanghai World Championship....ha ha....but it's apparently legal. But it looks like the stuff can't be bought even on the black market...

There are reports that xenoandrogens (modified tocopherols/tocotrienols) will be on the market in a few months. At this moment, just a few pros with the best connections are probably able to get them. The patent holder is in EU and practically all the reports of use are from Europe. Most likely not available in US at all.

Makes no sense. The patent is Japanese, not European.

I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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08-18-2011, 04:16 PM
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(08-18-2011 04:13 PM)BIGGER88 Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:12 PM)DocHolliday Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:04 PM)Vitya Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:00 PM)RedMuscle Wrote:  I read an article about Russian pro swimmers using xenoandrogens. Is the stuff legal? Anyone knows more?

Yeah, our swimmers reportedly used it this year in Shanghai World Championship....ha ha....but it's apparently legal. But it looks like the stuff can't be bought even on the black market...

There are reports that xenoandrogens (modified tocopherols/tocotrienols) will be on the market in a few months. At this moment, just a few pros with the best connections are probably able to get them. The patent holder is in EU and practically all the reports of use are from Europe. Most likely not available in US at all.

Makes no sense. The patent is Japanese, not European.

Not exactly. The basic research is Japanese (University of Kyoto). Since then a lot of more research has been done and all the patents belong to one EU company.

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08-18-2011, 04:19 PM
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(08-18-2011 04:16 PM)Canadarulez Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:13 PM)BIGGER88 Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:12 PM)DocHolliday Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:04 PM)Vitya Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:00 PM)RedMuscle Wrote:  I read an article about Russian pro swimmers using xenoandrogens. Is the stuff legal? Anyone knows more?

Yeah, our swimmers reportedly used it this year in Shanghai World Championship....ha ha....but it's apparently legal. But it looks like the stuff can't be bought even on the black market...

There are reports that xenoandrogens (modified tocopherols/tocotrienols) will be on the market in a few months. At this moment, just a few pros with the best connections are probably able to get them. The patent holder is in EU and practically all the reports of use are from Europe. Most likely not available in US at all.

Makes no sense. The patent is Japanese, not European.

Not exactly. The basic research is Japanese (University of Kyoto). Since then a lot of more research has been done and all the patents belong to one EU company.

The patent is Czech, I think. Or somewhere in the area - Central Europe. I know people who bought xenoandrogens in Vienna, Austria.

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08-18-2011, 04:21 PM
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(08-18-2011 04:19 PM)Vitya Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:16 PM)Canadarulez Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:13 PM)BIGGER88 Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:12 PM)DocHolliday Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:04 PM)Vitya Wrote:  Yeah, our swimmers reportedly used it this year in Shanghai World Championship....ha ha....but it's apparently legal. But it looks like the stuff can't be bought even on the black market...

There are reports that xenoandrogens (modified tocopherols/tocotrienols) will be on the market in a few months. At this moment, just a few pros with the best connections are probably able to get them. The patent holder is in EU and practically all the reports of use are from Europe. Most likely not available in US at all.

Makes no sense. The patent is Japanese, not European.

Not exactly. The basic research is Japanese (University of Kyoto). Since then a lot of more research has been done and all the patents belong to one EU company.

The patent is Czech, I think. Or somewhere in the area - Central Europe. I know people who bought xenoandrogens in Vienna, Austria.

Sorry, but what are your sources guys? I mean information source.
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08-18-2011, 04:23 PM
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(08-18-2011 04:21 PM)RedMuscle Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:19 PM)Vitya Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:16 PM)Canadarulez Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:13 PM)BIGGER88 Wrote:  
(08-18-2011 04:12 PM)DocHolliday Wrote:  There are reports that xenoandrogens (modified tocopherols/tocotrienols) will be on the market in a few months. At this moment, just a few pros with the best connections are probably able to get them. The patent holder is in EU and practically all the reports of use are from Europe. Most likely not available in US at all.

Makes no sense. The patent is Japanese, not European.

Not exactly. The basic research is Japanese (University of Kyoto). Since then a lot of more research has been done and all the patents belong to one EU company.

The patent is Czech, I think. Or somewhere in the area - Central Europe. I know people who bought xenoandrogens in Vienna, Austria.

Sorry, but what are your sources guys? I mean information source.

Google it. You'll find some interesting info.

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08-18-2011, 04:26 PM
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RE: Who's using xenoandrogens?
(08-18-2011 04:00 PM)RedMuscle Wrote:  I read an article about Russian pro swimmers using xenoandrogens. Is the stuff legal? Anyone knows more?

I know a pro weightlifter in my gym who is using it. Looks like normal steroids. He has the stuff from his coach but won't say where he bought it. I've heard about 2 other guys here in Germany who are using xenoandrogens.

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08-20-2011, 06:23 PM
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RE: Who's using xenoandrogens?
(08-18-2011 04:00 PM)RedMuscle Wrote:  I read an article about Russian pro swimmers using xenoandrogens. Is the stuff legal? Anyone knows more?

Xenoandrogens are legal but not commercially available yet. People who use them (like me) get them directly from the company developing and patenting the formulas. As for me, it's too early to say how exactly they work. I'm blogging on this topic so you can follow me and see later.

My blog: http://xenoandrogens.com
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